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Murk Paradox
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Posted - 2013.09.20 16:01:00 -
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We should definitely remove blackbirds and falcons from game.
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Posted - 2013.09.20 18:01:00 -
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Leigh Akiga wrote:Andski wrote:"don't nerf drone assist, we need more skill dependent counters to the blob like drone assist. clearly, the blob can't use these things themselves" I bet drone assist sympathizers would change their tune in a hurry if goons dropped 1000 dominix on them instead of 1000 megas   
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Posted - 2013.09.20 21:09:00 -
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I think it's funny it was done in defense and is being heralded as "bad" although I suppose it should follow the same rules as OGBs eh. This post has been signed by Murk Paradox and no other accounts, alternate or otherwise. Any other post claiming to be this holder's is subject to being banned at the discretion of the GM Team as it would violate the TOS in regards to impersonation. Signed, Murk Paradox. In triplicate. |

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Posted - 2013.09.20 21:27:00 -
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Georgina Parmala wrote:Murk Paradox wrote:I think it's funny it was done in defense and is being heralded as "bad" although I suppose it should follow the same rules as OGBs eh. I think you mean fighters, I don't see a reason for mining drones to be usable while inside a POS bubble.
Hmm?
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Posted - 2013.09.20 21:47:00 -
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Georgina Parmala wrote:Murk Paradox wrote:Georgina Parmala wrote:Murk Paradox wrote:I think it's funny it was done in defense and is being heralded as "bad" although I suppose it should follow the same rules as OGBs eh. I think you mean fighters, I don't see a reason for mining drones to be usable while inside a POS bubble. Hmm? Explain. Carriers have to stick out of a POS bubble to use fighters. Links can't be turned on inside a POS with the exception of Mining links, which still work.
Uh, yess.... that is what brought on my comment. I do not understand where you thought I implied mining though.
(Falcon deemed using drones as assist from within a pos an exploit)
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Posted - 2013.09.23 20:25:00 -
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Andski wrote:ahahaha yeah let's call straight up exploiting "being creative"
if we did that you and the chaff that make up your dumpster grade coalition would be bawwwing all over the forums about the big bad goon exploits
That's how bumping was allowed.
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Posted - 2013.09.23 20:29:00 -
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Georgina Parmala wrote:PotatoOverdose wrote:Andski wrote:
tell us more about countering ships in a pos shield
How many bombs does it take to kill ahundreds of sentry drone s spread around a 70 KM diamater sphere? FYP. Irrelevant, because they can just drop more poking out of various points around the bubble to replenish them. Also, being in a POS, they can refill the drone bay until they literally run out of however many drones they stockpiled before the fight. Unless you don't hell bubble the POS, in which case they can just ferry more in to resupply until they run out of money.
So out of curiosity... if you kept a few snipers out of range of the sentry drones and moved the fleet to the other side of the pos....
That wouldn't work to adapt? Hell, you can warp through a pos. Perch points aren't hard to figure out or re make.
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Posted - 2013.09.23 20:30:00 -
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Georgina Parmala wrote:
Show me another weapon system that doesn't require locking a target (or even being capable of locking it before ewar is applied!) and scales up to a full 255 man fleet and beyond. (Hint: It's not bombs)
Hurray FOF missiles!
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Posted - 2013.09.23 20:31:00 -
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Ciaphas Cyne wrote:Benny Ohu wrote:Alphea Abbra wrote:You might also want to take a look at the ability to broadcast a target to an alphafleet. It's OP as hell to be able to make 250 ships aware of a new target to shoot!
Tbh I don't see the particular issue. Focus firing and alpha are already things. yes but in a sentry drone fleet only the fc has to press a button, and all the sentries fire at the same time, this is the problem that should be the last word really. its kinda cheap and takes away from the social side of the game. you shouldnt be able to fire your friends ships guns.
Nerf isboxer!
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Posted - 2013.09.23 20:32:00 -
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Frostys Virpio wrote:Alavaria Fera wrote:Ciaphas Cyne wrote:Benny Ohu wrote:Alphea Abbra wrote:You might also want to take a look at the ability to broadcast a target to an alphafleet. It's OP as hell to be able to make 250 ships aware of a new target to shoot!
Tbh I don't see the particular issue. Focus firing and alpha are already things. yes but in a sentry drone fleet only the fc has to press a button, and all the sentries fire at the same time, this is the problem that should be the last word really. its kinda cheap and takes away from the social side of the game. you shouldnt be able to fire your friends ships guns. When goons finally learned to synchronize F1 pressing, someone realized you could just assign drones. CFC: Forever behind the curve in elite pvp skills The real question is what will they do when you guys finally learn to assist your sentries while useing your already trained gallente battleship skill from the baltec fleet to fly domi. Technically they will turn to bombers because they keep saying it's an efficient counter so tell the higher ups to also start plannign an anti bomber doctrine to counter thier counter.
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Posted - 2013.09.23 20:40:00 -
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Corp A sits inside pos and deploys drones(not outside of pos YET.
Corp B afks to write a tear fueled rage post on exploits.
Corp A pipebombs with the use of a titan.
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Posted - 2013.09.24 14:44:00 -
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Georgina Parmala wrote:Murk Paradox wrote: So out of curiosity... if you kept a few snipers out of range of the sentry drones and moved the fleet to the other side of the pos....
That wouldn't work to adapt? Hell, you can warp through a pos. Perch points aren't hard to figure out or re make.
You can fit a Domi to have 200km drone control range, 191km optimal and 30k falloff with Wardens or 153+42 with bouncers without sacrificing tank. hard to dance around that even before considering dics/hics/anchored bubbles. It can only lock out to 87km and has 112 scan res, but fortunately sentry assisting doesn't stop to consider silly things like range or time for locking targets. The domi only has to be within drone control range of the target, the insta locking remote sensor boosted bunny takes care of the rest.
That's an awesome point! Another thing those drones have, is falloff damage penalties as well. Which suprisingly enough, reduces the amount of alpha, which could be seen as increasing your own survivability. This post has been signed by Murk Paradox and no other accounts, alternate or otherwise. Any other post claiming to be this holder's is subject to being banned at the discretion of the GM Team as it would violate the TOS in regards to impersonation. Signed, Murk Paradox. In triplicate. |

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Posted - 2013.09.24 15:01:00 -
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Alavaria Fera wrote:Actually what kind of tank does a sniper ship have to shoot at 200km, how well does it target a small sentry drone, and how fast will it die to 250 Dominixes worth of sentry drones
Well, if the pos is 70km "wide" and the sentries are on one side, and you warp to a tac on OTHER side... that drone ship has to move before you get there (which wouldn't work).
So, the tactical advantage is to the snipers, who can also shoot pos guns and towers while those sentries are being moved.
If they aren't moved, then the entire fleet moves rending the sentries ineffectual.
If they do move.. well... you have roaming logi doing patrols as needed (even with their own drones to assist).
Point being, there are still work around regardless, and drone ships in a pos is not an i-win button.
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Posted - 2013.09.24 15:03:00 -
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Georgina Parmala wrote:Kitty Bear wrote:so ..... your issue is with some dubious theory-crafted eft-warrior fail-fit dominix
Actually, if you so much as pretended to read the thread, you would realize: My issue is with scrolling through an overview with over 200 targets on grid, looking for the one yellow box that means I have to overheat hardeners and broadcast for reps. While ignoring the other yellow boxes that are trying to troll me into flooding my logi's target list with random people. I have no way to tell if Ishtar137's lock on me will be followed by nothing, ewar, or the combined fire of a thousand sentries. The effect of the late broadcasts only gets compounded with scan res damped logistics trying to keep up with a remote sensor boosted drone anchor chewing through targets. Oddly enough, requiring the drone boat to lock the target for the assisted drones to fire fixes this issue. You know when you get primaried and can react. You have to sebo the whole fleet again if you want fast locks and have to deal with EWAR. It also fixes the "hiding in POS" problem in one fell swoop, because you can't lock people while inside a POS.
Don't scroll through the overview. Set specific tabs and watch your broadcasts? It's very easy to set specific tabs and cycle tabs as needed. This post has been signed by Murk Paradox and no other accounts, alternate or otherwise. Any other post claiming to be this holder's is subject to being banned at the discretion of the GM Team as it would violate the TOS in regards to impersonation. Signed, Murk Paradox. In triplicate. |

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Posted - 2013.09.24 16:25:00 -
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Hacking drones and "subverting" them would mean the next step.- This post has been signed by Murk Paradox and no other accounts, alternate or otherwise. Any other post claiming to be this holder's is subject to being banned at the discretion of the GM Team as it would violate the TOS in regards to impersonation. Signed, Murk Paradox. In triplicate. |
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